social Darwinism

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(idea) by rp (1.1 hr) (print)   (I like it!) Sat Nov 13 1999 at 14:30:12
Strictly speaking, 'social Darwinism' would be: describing society, or aspects of society such as the economy, in Darwinist terms.

If done properly, this can be interesting. To what extent does society behave like a naturally evolving system? Do some of the same laws apply? If they do, knowing exactly how is useful and important knowledge.

However, the idea is often mistaken for a moral judgement: 'the strong must survive'. Which isn't even necessarily true in Darwinism.

(idea) by Saige (1.5 y) (print)   (I like it!) Sat Nov 13 1999 at 14:30:12
The belief that society should be treated as a Darwinian process - only the most "fit" should survive, that is prosper, so that society becomes better "adapted".

It requires a lack of caring about other humans to follow this belief, as you'd just laugh at the homeless and say "they weren't as fit and therefore deserve to die."

(idea) by Wyclef (7.9 y) (print)   (I like it!) 1 C! Tue Mar 21 2000 at 2:57:48

Problems with Social Darwinism as an ethical system that have led me to reject it:

  • Is life mainly characterized by inter-species or intra-species struggle? While in Siberia, Peter Kropotkin observed that the natural behavior of wildlife was cooperation with other members of the same species.
  • Should humans strive to transcend their more "natural" impulses?
  • If life is characterized by intra-species struggle, is it more "natural" for human individuals to struggle against other individuals or for groups of humans to struggle against other groups?
  • Many political philosophies claim to be in accordance with natural principles, from Marxism to Anarchism to Capitalism. Logic can be used to align any dreamable system with Darwinism. (And remember, economics is only a pseudoscience.)

"Kill the poor! Eugenics forever!"

Social Darwinism was largely popularized as apologia for the robber barons of fin-de-siecle America.

(idea) by moongirl (1.6 y) (print)   (I like it!) 1 C! Wed Jun 28 2000 at 4:45:26
To the social Darwinists (the most famous being Herbert Spencer), the importance in Darwin's theories lay in the implied existence of a biological hierarchy -- with the superior organisms at the top and the inferior organisms at the bottom.
This was, unfortunately, too easily applied to many different aspects of society. The conclusion was made that the misery of the poor was due to inherent defects in their moral character. Subsequently, Social Darwinists felt that state intervention, through the form of poor laws, state supported education, sanitary supervision, regulation of housing conditions and even state protection of the ignorant from medical quacks - these were all concepts which would interfere with the laws of nature. If left to themselves, these laws would move civilization on a progressively bettering line, eliminating the weak and immoral and producing a more biologically sound society. The argument stated that a misdirected humanitarianism was threatening the quality of the race, by fostering the protection of its weaker members.

The easy acceptance of Darwinian theories is easily understood. It is in no way an explanation of any type of reality however - merely a caricature of Darwin's theories to justify many ruthless practices of businessmen, imperialists, racists, and eugenicists. Also see Sterilization, a method which was even adopted in some states when this movement was at its peak.

David Suzuki once commented of the Human Genome Project that even if each gene of each chromosome in the human body is mapped and decoded into a series of nucleotide bases, this would still not give us a better understanding of what it means to be human. In the same way, social Darwinism cannot give us a better understanding of what governs society and it's changes; it can only illuminate a justification that has fostered thousands of cases of exploitation for over a century.

Because Darwinism has had popular and then unpopular stages, does not mean that it has disappeared as a reliable fallback for dominant groups. It will remain to be this way so long as there is a strong element of predation in society. The phrase "survival of the fittest" has a fixed place in the public mind.

(idea) by gate (1.3 d) (print)   (I like it!) Fri Feb 08 2008 at 21:12:44

A belief that the best humans should survive, the weakest should perish, thus improving the human race.

How would Social Darwinism explain the existance of religion? Most religions tell their people to help one another, instead of fighting. Even in non-religious societies, their political systems outlaws things like murder. This should be wrong to the logic of a Social Darwinist - murder should be encouraged because it will separate the weak from the strong.

The answer to this puzzle is that religious and political systems have been in a process of memetic evolution. The belief systems that best encourage their people to cooperate (instead of compete) are the ones that survive and are passed down to future generations.

The logic of competition would imply two groups of people fight wars with one another over resources and territory. The result of war is that both groups suffer many deaths, economic production is redirected into destruction rather than creation. The beliefs that led to this war have made both the groups less fit to survive.

If instead the two groups had been encouraged by their beliefs to cooperate, they would be helping each other survive. Some growing crops, some developing medicine. In the end, both sides benefit and thus, their beliefs have more survival value.

While genetic evolution occurs in humans, I believe genetic evolution has taken a back seat to memetic evolution. The future of humanity will be defined by its knowledge and beliefs, not by its genes.

In the distant past, someone born with bad eyesight might mean he'd quickly become a tasty snack for some predator. These days? Eyeglasses. Bam - genetic selection for better eyesight takes a big hit. People who are nearly blind without their glasses live normal lives and have children who survive just like everybody else.  Whatever genetic deficiencies some humans have, we overcome them much sooner with technological evolution than genetic evolution.  There is no longer a need to wait around millions of years to evolve better genes when we can invent our way out much faster.

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